How could it be anything else this week but the trailer to the new Star Trek movie, a reboot of the franchise. I’ve embedded the theater bootleg since it’s the only one up on YouTube, but I highly recommend watching the full quality trailer instead.
Everything I’ve heard has made me excited for this movie, and the trailer only moreso. What do you guys think?
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I was meh about the youtube one, but watching the high quality I couldn’t help but be excited to see this. My strongest Star Trek ties are to TNG, so I will probably be able to enjoy this movie even if it does butcher the original series. From the looks of it, it’s actually an improvement. 😀
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Eww… you got Beverly Hills 90210 in my Star Trek!
Dave: Is that a good thing, or what? I believe the youtube version is also not the whole trailer, right?
It looks like the same trailer to me, with some credits changed.
You didn’t answer my first question. 😛
The quizzical Robot/Jame T. Kirk chase scene notwithstanding, I think this looks to be a solid project. My question is, what does this mean for the franchise? Is it going to be a movie franchise or also serve as a T.V. reboot? It seems like Star Trek is too huge to only do a movie cash in (if successful).
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Travesty. Looks like it would be a decent SF film if not for its ruination of Star Trek. I guess I can see the attraction if you’re a snapper with a childhood _after_ the original series. But yeah, I’m just a cranky old man who wishes hollywood would just leave old properties alone.
I keep hearing how it’s “ruining” Star Trek. I fail to see how.
It’s just a prequel! No, they can’t use Shatner’s ancient ass in a prequel.
But in being a prequel, it isn’t inherently ruining the franchise.
Did Batman Begins “ruin” Batman? Not at all.
Did Temple of Doom (prequel to Raiders) “ruin” Indiana Jones? Nope.
Did the Silmarillion “ruin” LotR? No.
Did Episodes I-III “ruin” Star Wars? No matter if you think they lived up to the name or not, the answer is still no.
Will this movie live up to the name of Star Trek? Maybe, maybe not. It could be a Phantom Menace.
Or it could be a Batman Begins (which we would not have gotten if Hollywood “would just leave old properties alone”), and be the greatest Trek movie yet. (Whether Dark Knight was better is debatable, but beside the point.)
But even if it’s a Phantom Menace, will Star Trek somehow be lessened for it existing?
Unequivocally, no.
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That car chase scene made me doubt if this is a Star Trek movie…
I seriously thought there was some mistake made…
I have to agree with you Graham, but I admittedly have very few connections to the original series of Star Trek. I’m just happy to see the franchise getting more cinematic attention, after TNG movies fizzled out this one has me excited once more and that’s all I could really hope for from a trailer.
@Graham…
I realize I wasn’t clear in my comment and you are probably lumping my comment in with others you have read elsewhere, but I will actually argue what you thought I was saying in the first place as well.
But first, the clarification of what I actually meant: from the trailer, it appears that the Star Trek universe is ruined within the new film. It does not look to be “in the spirit” of TOS and earlier films, nor does it seem to adhere to previously established cannon. The nice way to say this would be that the new film appears to be revisionist. If you are not overly fond or attached to the original (and possibly even if you are) the revision is likely appealing.
Now, to argue for the position I believe you thought I was taking…
Batman Begins did not ruin the Batman franchise for me, because I was not emotionally invested in the previous incarnations and (to my limited knowledge of the Batman universe) the differences were not significant. More importantly, Batman Begins “feels like” Batman to me, perhaps becuase my mental image of Batman was shaped primarily from Miller’s The Dark Knight Returns and the animated series.
It came close. It gave us our first hint that Jones is basically indestructible (later confirmed in KotCS, making him less human and less interesting) and demonstrated that he sometimes consorts with annoying twits (making him more human and less interesting).
Here I can state without doubt that from the perspective of some people, you are mistaken. For myself, my wife, and some of my friends (and likely many others), Phantom Menace ruined (or in my case, diminished) the entirety of Star Wars. For us, the real Star Wars films were formative and we cared about them deeply. That might sound silly, and perhaps it is, but it is no less true. The revisionist elements of Phantom Menace changed the context in which we experience A New Hope forever and for the worse. If only we could un-watch Phantom Menace.
Certainty cannot be achieved from the trailer, but I believe such is possible.
Cheers,
James
I had the same argument with Graham re: Phantom Menace and the other two prequels. There are definitely elements of those movies that diminish the overall story of the Star Wars universe for me.
As for Star Trek, maybe it’s because I don’t have a big attachment to TOS, but I’m really looking forward to it. So far everything I’ve seen has indicated that it’s not going to be a crappy remake (which I’m generally opposed to), but a good movie in its own right with a cast I’m absolutely nuts for.
Plus, I hear it involves a neat bit of time travel that should address some of the concerns of purists, and also allow it to be its own thing.
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Nah, it wasn’t directed 100% at you. Yours was just the latest in a line of comments I’ve read about it with similar implications.
While I understand the emotional investment, I still fail to see how it can detract from the enjoyment of watching the previous movies/shows. Did they become worse? No, they’re exactly as they always were.
If the Star Trek Curse (even numbered movies are good, all odd-numbered ones are shit) didn’t “ruin star trek”, how will this? Trek has already had its share of crap movies (“The Final Frontier” has an 18% rating at Rotten Tomatoes).
If Enterprise didn’t “ruin star trek” (despite many claims it would) with its revisions of canon, how will this?
And, if a horrible film with bad revisions can ruin a franchise, how the hell was it The Phantom Menace that ruined Star Wars and not “The Star Wars Holiday Special”, “Caravan of Courage: An Ewok Adventure”, or “Ewoks: The Battle for Endor”?
After watching The Phantom Menace, do you no longer enjoy the original trilogy?
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