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	<title>Comments on: Old School Geekout: The Order of the Grappling Hook, Part 1</title>
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		<title>By: dar</title>
		<link>http://critical-hits.com/2009/08/31/old-school-geekout-the-order-of-the-grappling-hook-part-1/#comment-56323</link>
		<dc:creator>dar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 23:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D&amp;D poly-gamist!

Hey! Me too!</description>
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<p>Hey! Me too!</p>
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		<title>By: ChattyDM</title>
		<link>http://critical-hits.com/2009/08/31/old-school-geekout-the-order-of-the-grappling-hook-part-1/#comment-56322</link>
		<dc:creator>ChattyDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just so people aren&#039;t held in waiting for nothing, the game ended up being fantastic, easily in the top 10% of my DnD games of the last 26 years.  As PM mentions, we were all in a mood to have fun and experience the game as we believed it was meant to be.

@LV:  It becomes more and more evident to me that I&#039;m a poly-GM, I can and have had fun with more than one system at the same time.  While I love and will very likely play more Swords &amp; Wizardry, I don&#039;t plan to put my 4e books down either as I seek a different experience with that game.

Actually, I though my ploy would be more transparent, I&#039;m trying to grow my readership across editions.  Once I have a S&amp;W game running, I&#039;ll return to 1e and Pathfinder...

... just don&#039;t ask me about 2e.  :)  (Seriously, I have no real beef with 2e, I just didn&#039;t enjoy it as a player... as a DM it was allright, but I played only 2 sessions before moving on to Gurps).

@Dar: I think I may become a D&amp;D poly-gamist... until I give Mouse Guard a try...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so people aren&#8217;t held in waiting for nothing, the game ended up being fantastic, easily in the top 10% of my DnD games of the last 26 years.  As PM mentions, we were all in a mood to have fun and experience the game as we believed it was meant to be.</p>
<p>@LV:  It becomes more and more evident to me that I&#8217;m a poly-GM, I can and have had fun with more than one system at the same time.  While I love and will very likely play more Swords &#038; Wizardry, I don&#8217;t plan to put my 4e books down either as I seek a different experience with that game.</p>
<p>Actually, I though my ploy would be more transparent, I&#8217;m trying to grow my readership across editions.  Once I have a S&#038;W game running, I&#8217;ll return to 1e and Pathfinder&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; just don&#8217;t ask me about 2e.  <img src='http://critical-hits.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   (Seriously, I have no real beef with 2e, I just didn&#8217;t enjoy it as a player&#8230; as a DM it was allright, but I played only 2 sessions before moving on to Gurps).</p>
<p>@Dar: I think I may become a D&#038;D poly-gamist&#8230; until I give Mouse Guard a try&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dar</title>
		<link>http://critical-hits.com/2009/08/31/old-school-geekout-the-order-of-the-grappling-hook-part-1/#comment-56321</link>
		<dc:creator>dar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rock and roll.

Sounds like fun.

I love all versions of D&amp;D and will play them, though I must admit that it&#039;s been way to long since OD&amp;D...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rock and roll.</p>
<p>Sounds like fun.</p>
<p>I love all versions of D&amp;D and will play them, though I must admit that it&#8217;s been way to long since OD&amp;D&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LordVreeg</title>
		<link>http://critical-hits.com/2009/08/31/old-school-geekout-the-order-of-the-grappling-hook-part-1/#comment-56320</link>
		<dc:creator>LordVreeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chatty,

Funny.  I haven&#039;t played DnD much in the last 20 odd years.  I tried 3.5 and 4e just to see when they were first released and didn&#039;t enjoy the first and frankly despised the latter.

So while I don&#039;t use the rules right now, I did download OSric and a few others because I like the feel, growth patterns, and gaming mindset better than in newer editions.

I find that in my own sessions and in the writings I peruse, that player-GM synergy seems to be easily reached by this Old-School mentality.  A lot of my players (some of which I have kept for over 25 years) mentioned that feel as a positive thing long before there was retroclones.

You seem to be able to run all these games well, so maybe it is not as big a deal.  But I look forward to reading about the game you run with this.
-LV
.-= LordVreeg&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://celtricia.pbworks.com/Magic%20Overview&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;edited Magic Overview&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chatty,</p>
<p>Funny.  I haven&#8217;t played DnD much in the last 20 odd years.  I tried 3.5 and 4e just to see when they were first released and didn&#8217;t enjoy the first and frankly despised the latter.</p>
<p>So while I don&#8217;t use the rules right now, I did download OSric and a few others because I like the feel, growth patterns, and gaming mindset better than in newer editions.</p>
<p>I find that in my own sessions and in the writings I peruse, that player-GM synergy seems to be easily reached by this Old-School mentality.  A lot of my players (some of which I have kept for over 25 years) mentioned that feel as a positive thing long before there was retroclones.</p>
<p>You seem to be able to run all these games well, so maybe it is not as big a deal.  But I look forward to reading about the game you run with this.<br />
-LV<br />
.-= LordVreeg&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://celtricia.pbworks.com/Magic%20Overview" rel="nofollow">edited Magic Overview</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: ChattyDM</title>
		<link>http://critical-hits.com/2009/08/31/old-school-geekout-the-order-of-the-grappling-hook-part-1/#comment-56319</link>
		<dc:creator>ChattyDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Paul: It will all be covered in the other parts... I may end up doing a mini serial this week as I must also prep for my friday game.  So this may end up being made of shorter posts than my usual 1200 word blurb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paul: It will all be covered in the other parts&#8230; I may end up doing a mini serial this week as I must also prep for my friday game.  So this may end up being made of shorter posts than my usual 1200 word blurb.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Jessup</title>
		<link>http://critical-hits.com/2009/08/31/old-school-geekout-the-order-of-the-grappling-hook-part-1/#comment-56318</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Jessup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So how did it go after it started?

Also-
Roll up the Rim to Win!
-heh, we have Tim Hortons in America as well :)  So we also get the reference....at least up north</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how did it go after it started?</p>
<p>Also-<br />
Roll up the Rim to Win!<br />
-heh, we have Tim Hortons in America as well <img src='http://critical-hits.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   So we also get the reference&#8230;.at least up north</p>
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		<title>By: ChattyDM</title>
		<link>http://critical-hits.com/2009/08/31/old-school-geekout-the-order-of-the-grappling-hook-part-1/#comment-56317</link>
		<dc:creator>ChattyDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, there are cool, almost magical moments when everyone around the table is in perfect synch and the game takes a dimension beyond what&#039;s on sheets and rules.  This was a great game!</description>
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		<title>By: PM</title>
		<link>http://critical-hits.com/2009/08/31/old-school-geekout-the-order-of-the-grappling-hook-part-1/#comment-56316</link>
		<dc:creator>PM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think everyone really was in the right mood for this. The classes were randomly chosen and so were the character names. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think everyone really was in the right mood for this. The classes were randomly chosen and so were the character names. <img src='http://critical-hits.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ChattyDM</title>
		<link>http://critical-hits.com/2009/08/31/old-school-geekout-the-order-of-the-grappling-hook-part-1/#comment-56315</link>
		<dc:creator>ChattyDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@A Paladin: I really wanted my players to &#039;get&#039; the flavour I wanted to have for this game.  I wanted to the PCs to be the archetypal pulp scoundrel, not good or evil, just very self-centered.

Oh and I&#039;m glad that you got the Bacon word!  &#039;grats!

@Brian: Be on the lookout for the fate of that Magic User, they always lead to classic moments.

@Phil: The behavior of the players made the whole game worthwhile, they embraced the setting and the assumption of old School gaming real fast.  I can&#039;t wait to write part 2.

@D_Luck: I totally agree with you, except that the re-write seems to have cleared up some of the issues I had with the game.  Of course, there are still Save or Dies, Level Drain and the near absence of healing at low levels, but hey... that&#039;s part of the expperience.

In fact, I find playing S&amp;W the equivalent of &#039;roughing it in the wild&#039; for 4e players.  I predict that some players will love it and want to re-visit periodically while others will appreciate it but prefer the warm confines of the 4e lodge. :)

And then you have guys like PM, who have felt constrained by the numerous rules of later editions and who find the freedom of the older ruleset liberating.  He&#039;s been clamoring for another game a mere 3 days after we played!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@A Paladin: I really wanted my players to &#8216;get&#8217; the flavour I wanted to have for this game.  I wanted to the PCs to be the archetypal pulp scoundrel, not good or evil, just very self-centered.</p>
<p>Oh and I&#8217;m glad that you got the Bacon word!  &#8216;grats!</p>
<p>@Brian: Be on the lookout for the fate of that Magic User, they always lead to classic moments.</p>
<p>@Phil: The behavior of the players made the whole game worthwhile, they embraced the setting and the assumption of old School gaming real fast.  I can&#8217;t wait to write part 2.</p>
<p>@D_Luck: I totally agree with you, except that the re-write seems to have cleared up some of the issues I had with the game.  Of course, there are still Save or Dies, Level Drain and the near absence of healing at low levels, but hey&#8230; that&#8217;s part of the expperience.</p>
<p>In fact, I find playing S&#038;W the equivalent of &#8216;roughing it in the wild&#8217; for 4e players.  I predict that some players will love it and want to re-visit periodically while others will appreciate it but prefer the warm confines of the 4e lodge. <img src='http://critical-hits.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And then you have guys like PM, who have felt constrained by the numerous rules of later editions and who find the freedom of the older ruleset liberating.  He&#8217;s been clamoring for another game a mere 3 days after we played!</p>
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		<title>By: D_luck</title>
		<link>http://critical-hits.com/2009/08/31/old-school-geekout-the-order-of-the-grappling-hook-part-1/#comment-56314</link>
		<dc:creator>D_luck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s one game I remember quite fondly and it&#039;s Star Frontier from TSR.  If I remember correctly the system was very simple.  I&#039;m pretty sure if I would find it in my basement I would be better not to read it either.

Sometimes the souvenir of something is better then the real thing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s one game I remember quite fondly and it&#8217;s Star Frontier from TSR.  If I remember correctly the system was very simple.  I&#8217;m pretty sure if I would find it in my basement I would be better not to read it either.</p>
<p>Sometimes the souvenir of something is better then the real thing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DNAphil</title>
		<link>http://critical-hits.com/2009/08/31/old-school-geekout-the-order-of-the-grappling-hook-part-1/#comment-56313</link>
		<dc:creator>DNAphil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going Old School...I love it.  I have to admit that I too have been having some Old School feelings, though my eye is focused on HackMaster:Basic right now.  There is something a bit a more streamlined rules set and a 10ft pole that makes you want to inch down a moldy dark hallway, praying you find the pit trap.

BTW-- Us border folks, know all about Roll Up The Rim To Win.  In fact, I will be hitting Timmy Ho&#039;s in just a few minutes for breakfast, on my way to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going Old School&#8230;I love it.  I have to admit that I too have been having some Old School feelings, though my eye is focused on HackMaster:Basic right now.  There is something a bit a more streamlined rules set and a 10ft pole that makes you want to inch down a moldy dark hallway, praying you find the pit trap.</p>
<p>BTW&#8211; Us border folks, know all about Roll Up The Rim To Win.  In fact, I will be hitting Timmy Ho&#8217;s in just a few minutes for breakfast, on my way to work.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://critical-hits.com/2009/08/31/old-school-geekout-the-order-of-the-grappling-hook-part-1/#comment-56312</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe, 1HP mage... I remember those days.
.-= Brian&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://onlyonemanproductions.blogspot.com/2009/04/hmmm-dont-know-about-this-but-ok-ill.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hmmm.... don&#039;t know about this... but ok.  I&#039;ll Tweet...&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe, 1HP mage&#8230; I remember those days.<br />
.-= Brian&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://onlyonemanproductions.blogspot.com/2009/04/hmmm-dont-know-about-this-but-ok-ill.html" rel="nofollow">Hmmm&#8230;. don&#8217;t know about this&#8230; but ok.  I&#8217;ll Tweet&#8230;</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: A Paladin In Citadel</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Paladin In Citadel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love your opening hook, very old-school!

This should be interesting (sets up lawnchair and goes to microwave a bag of popcorn)

Word Verification - bacon:  how very canadian!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love your opening hook, very old-school!</p>
<p>This should be interesting (sets up lawnchair and goes to microwave a bag of popcorn)</p>
<p>Word Verification &#8211; bacon:  how very canadian!</p>
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