Comments on: Review: "Divine Power" http://critical-hits.com/2009/07/19/review-divine-power/ The Journal of Gamer Culture Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:53:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Graham http://critical-hits.com/2009/07/19/review-divine-power/#comment-66436 Graham Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:47:53 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=4289#comment-66436 @Bartoneus - Good to know. I had assumed that Divine Sanction was specific to the Vow paladin. .-= Graham´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/criticalanklebites/~3/nRx1GL1x6CA/" rel="nofollow">Damn you, Dave! You and your… logic…</a> =-. @Bartoneus -

Good to know. I had assumed that Divine Sanction was specific to the Vow paladin.
.-= Graham´s last blog ..Damn you, Dave! You and your… logic… =-.

]]> By: OriginalSultan http://critical-hits.com/2009/07/19/review-divine-power/#comment-66435 OriginalSultan Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:26:05 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=4289#comment-66435 Paladins definitely needed a boost in power. Hopefully this book gives them one. Paladins definitely needed a boost in power. Hopefully this book gives them one.

]]> By: Bartoneus http://critical-hits.com/2009/07/19/review-divine-power/#comment-66434 Bartoneus Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:10:25 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=4289#comment-66434 Graham: The Valorous at-will power is strength based, so I think you could say the Vow Paladin build leans towards Str-based but I think they definitely had to provide a mix of powers so that every paladin can make good use of this new ability. Graham: The Valorous at-will power is strength based, so I think you could say the Vow Paladin build leans towards Str-based but I think they definitely had to provide a mix of powers so that every paladin can make good use of this new ability.

]]> By: EN World RPG News http://critical-hits.com/2009/07/19/review-divine-power/#comment-66433 EN World RPG News Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:25:03 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=4289#comment-66433 [...] Crítica: “Poder Divino (Divine Power)” “Se você ou um dos seus jogadores gosta de jogar com uma classe divina, então este livro é definitivamente essencial, mas existe uma quantidade surpreendente de características que outros jogadores e Mestres irão desejar!” [...] [...] Crítica: “Poder Divino (Divine Power)” “Se você ou um dos seus jogadores gosta de jogar com uma classe divina, então este livro é definitivamente essencial, mas existe uma quantidade surpreendente de características que outros jogadores e Mestres irão desejar!” [...]

]]> By: Graham http://critical-hits.com/2009/07/19/review-divine-power/#comment-66432 Graham Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:25:15 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=4289#comment-66432 Sweet! So does that mean the Vow paladin is a Cha-based build, then? Sweet! So does that mean the Vow paladin is a Cha-based build, then?

]]> By: Bartoneus http://critical-hits.com/2009/07/19/review-divine-power/#comment-66431 Bartoneus Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:53:31 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=4289#comment-66431 Graham & Original Sultan: I've gone back and looked through the specific powers. The Cleric seems to be spread thus - if there are 5 powers, 3 of them are wisdom attacks and 2 are strength. The new paladin powers seems to be the opposite, out of 5 powers (avg. per level) 3 are strength based and 2 are charisma. Obviously this changes a bit based on which level powers, but surprisingly it's actually true for the majority of the new powers! So to summarize, wisdom clerics and strength paladins specifically get a great boost in power selection from this book. Just to give you an example, a new level 1 paladin encounter attack Valorous Smite is charisma vs. AC, 2W + Charisma damage and each enemy within 3 squares of you is subject to your Divine Sanction mark until the end of your next turn. That's one damn good defender! Graham & Original Sultan: I’ve gone back and looked through the specific powers. The Cleric seems to be spread thus – if there are 5 powers, 3 of them are wisdom attacks and 2 are strength. The new paladin powers seems to be the opposite, out of 5 powers (avg. per level) 3 are strength based and 2 are charisma. Obviously this changes a bit based on which level powers, but surprisingly it’s actually true for the majority of the new powers! So to summarize, wisdom clerics and strength paladins specifically get a great boost in power selection from this book.

Just to give you an example, a new level 1 paladin encounter attack Valorous Smite is charisma vs. AC, 2W + Charisma damage and each enemy within 3 squares of you is subject to your Divine Sanction mark until the end of your next turn. That’s one damn good defender!

]]> By: Friday, 20 July, 2009 - EN World D&D / RPG News http://critical-hits.com/2009/07/19/review-divine-power/#comment-66430 Friday, 20 July, 2009 - EN World D&D / RPG News Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:58:29 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=4289#comment-66430 [...] Review: "Divine Power" "If you or one of your players is enjoying playing a divine class then this book is definitely a must have, but there are actually a surprising number of features that other players and DMs will want to borrow your copy to read as well!" [...] [...] Review: "Divine Power" "If you or one of your players is enjoying playing a divine class then this book is definitely a must have, but there are actually a surprising number of features that other players and DMs will want to borrow your copy to read as well!" [...]

]]> By: Wyatt http://critical-hits.com/2009/07/19/review-divine-power/#comment-66429 Wyatt Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:33:35 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=4289#comment-66429 @Bart: I don't buy books for fluff, since, yep, I don't use any of it at all. I barely use D&D monsters or races much as it is, I don't use any of the settings or setting assumptions. However, that doesn't stop me from purchasing books which contain fluff. I just skip over those pages. As long as the crunch is good I don't mind the existence of fluff even if I would rather it not exist. .-= Wyatt´s last blog ..<a href="http://spiritsofeden.wordpress.com/2009/07/19/paradiso-behind-the-wyatt-i/" rel="nofollow">Paradiso: Behind the Wyatt I</a> =-. @Bart: I don’t buy books for fluff, since, yep, I don’t use any of it at all. I barely use D&D monsters or races much as it is, I don’t use any of the settings or setting assumptions. However, that doesn’t stop me from purchasing books which contain fluff. I just skip over those pages. As long as the crunch is good I don’t mind the existence of fluff even if I would rather it not exist.
.-= Wyatt´s last blog ..Paradiso: Behind the Wyatt I =-.

]]> By: Graham http://critical-hits.com/2009/07/19/review-divine-power/#comment-66428 Graham Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:32:32 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=4289#comment-66428 @Bartoneus - Thanks, man. Looking through the Paladin again, the only one that is actually missing is a Strength power in the level 9 Dailies. Every other level has at least one of each. Though there are a few levels that have 3 Cha powers to one Str power. Strength just needs some more options, I think. And with that Vow ability, they should get some. .-= Graham´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/criticalanklebites/~3/nRx1GL1x6CA/" rel="nofollow">Damn you, Dave! You and your… logic…</a> =-. @Bartoneus -

Thanks, man.

Looking through the Paladin again, the only one that is actually missing is a Strength power in the level 9 Dailies. Every other level has at least one of each.

Though there are a few levels that have 3 Cha powers to one Str power. Strength just needs some more options, I think. And with that Vow ability, they should get some.
.-= Graham´s last blog ..Damn you, Dave! You and your… logic… =-.

]]> By: Nicholas http://critical-hits.com/2009/07/19/review-divine-power/#comment-66427 Nicholas Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:29:12 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=4289#comment-66427 A very good review. It has solidified my desire to pick up the book. I need to make a paladin as soon as possible. .-= Nicholas´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DungeonMastering/~3/isOQ2W1CwrE/5-dnd-character-concepts" rel="nofollow">5 Character Concepts from Mythic Design (With Stat Blocks)</a> =-. A very good review. It has solidified my desire to pick up the book.

I need to make a paladin as soon as possible.
.-= Nicholas´s last blog ..5 Character Concepts from Mythic Design (With Stat Blocks) =-.

]]> By: Bartoneus http://critical-hits.com/2009/07/19/review-divine-power/#comment-66426 Bartoneus Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:06:04 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=4289#comment-66426 Graham & Original Sultan: I'll check that as soon as I get home and let you know some specifics of what is provided! Geek's Dream Girl: Thanks! Graham & Original Sultan: I’ll check that as soon as I get home and let you know some specifics of what is provided!

Geek’s Dream Girl: Thanks!

]]> By: Graham http://critical-hits.com/2009/07/19/review-divine-power/#comment-66425 Graham Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:03:33 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=4289#comment-66425 @OriginalSultan - All they really needed to add to do that would be 2 or 3 powers for each side. I really hope that happened in the 30+ that would be included. .-= Graham´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/criticalanklebites/~3/nRx1GL1x6CA/" rel="nofollow">Damn you, Dave! You and your… logic…</a> =-. @OriginalSultan -

All they really needed to add to do that would be 2 or 3 powers for each side. I really hope that happened in the 30+ that would be included.
.-= Graham´s last blog ..Damn you, Dave! You and your… logic… =-.

]]> By: Geek's Dream Girl http://critical-hits.com/2009/07/19/review-divine-power/#comment-66424 Geek's Dream Girl Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:36:01 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=4289#comment-66424 Don't forget the super awesome close burst 5 healing surge from the new cleric Channel Divinity. The only problem being it has to be swapped out with Turn Undead, which is also pretty useful. :( Nice review, Bartoneus! :) .-= Geek's Dream Girl´s last blog ..<a href="http://geeksdreamgirl.com/2009/07/20/divine-power-es-top-five-fun-ways-to-roleplay-a-cleric/" rel="nofollow">Divine Power: E’s Top Five Fun Ways to Roleplay a Cleric</a> =-. Don’t forget the super awesome close burst 5 healing surge from the new cleric Channel Divinity. The only problem being it has to be swapped out with Turn Undead, which is also pretty useful. :(

Nice review, Bartoneus! :)
.-= Geek’s Dream Girl´s last blog ..Divine Power: E’s Top Five Fun Ways to Roleplay a Cleric =-.

]]> By: TheMainEvent http://critical-hits.com/2009/07/19/review-divine-power/#comment-66423 TheMainEvent Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:48:08 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=4289#comment-66423 The big question: how many radiant and fear keyworded powers are they for the Avenger? I have my Student of Caiphon/Avenger to consider! The big question: how many radiant and fear keyworded powers are they for the Avenger? I have my Student of Caiphon/Avenger to consider!

]]> By: OriginalSultan http://critical-hits.com/2009/07/19/review-divine-power/#comment-66422 OriginalSultan Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:41:25 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=4289#comment-66422 Are there enough Paladin powers such that one could make a character using only Str based powers or only Cha based powers? I ask because in PHB1 there were some levels where there wasn't an attack power for either Str or Cha. Hopefully this book fixes that problem. Are there enough Paladin powers such that one could make a character using only Str based powers or only Cha based powers? I ask because in PHB1 there were some levels where there wasn’t an attack power for either Str or Cha. Hopefully this book fixes that problem.

]]> By: Bartoneus http://critical-hits.com/2009/07/19/review-divine-power/#comment-66421 Bartoneus Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:11:45 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=4289#comment-66421 @Wyatt: I think this book definitely does some interesting things with the divine classes, but I also expect you'd be less interested than most people in all of the fluff that is presented. Do you use the PHB gods at all in your games? @Graham: Thanks for catching that, I updated the post to show the correct name for the Epic Destiny in the FR book. @Wyatt: I think this book definitely does some interesting things with the divine classes, but I also expect you’d be less interested than most people in all of the fluff that is presented. Do you use the PHB gods at all in your games?

@Graham: Thanks for catching that, I updated the post to show the correct name for the Epic Destiny in the FR book.

]]> By: Graham http://critical-hits.com/2009/07/19/review-divine-power/#comment-66420 Graham Mon, 20 Jul 2009 05:28:39 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=4289#comment-66420 Sounds like a good buy. One nitpick is that the FR Epic Destiny was similarly called "Chosen", not "Chosen One". I am glad to see it ported to core, however, and hope to see the Eberron gods included in a Dragon article. .-= Graham´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/criticalanklebites/~3/nRx1GL1x6CA/" rel="nofollow">Damn you, Dave! You and your… logic…</a> =-. Sounds like a good buy.

One nitpick is that the FR Epic Destiny was similarly called “Chosen”, not “Chosen One”. I am glad to see it ported to core, however, and hope to see the Eberron gods included in a Dragon article.
.-= Graham´s last blog ..Damn you, Dave! You and your… logic… =-.

]]> By: Wyatt http://critical-hits.com/2009/07/19/review-divine-power/#comment-66419 Wyatt Mon, 20 Jul 2009 03:21:49 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=4289#comment-66419 I bought Martial Power as a PDF when it came out, and it's been the last D&D book I've bought. I may come around to buy this one though, and Adventurer's Vault 2 whenever it's out. I rather like some of what I'm hearing and the Divine Classes are some of my favorites. .-= Wyatt´s last blog ..<a href="http://spiritsofeden.wordpress.com/2009/07/14/a-punishment-ill-fit-iii/" rel="nofollow">A Punishment Ill Fit (III)</a> =-. I bought Martial Power as a PDF when it came out, and it’s been the last D&D book I’ve bought. I may come around to buy this one though, and Adventurer’s Vault 2 whenever it’s out. I rather like some of what I’m hearing and the Divine Classes are some of my favorites.
.-= Wyatt´s last blog ..A Punishment Ill Fit (III) =-.

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