We’d probably have started playing at home if it didn’t take so long to game out combat.
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I played 4e for a while, and was really excited for it prior to release. After a while, though, it just felt too compartmentalized. Combat was like a computer RTS game sans the ability to speed things up, and the only thing defined for character classes (and the races) was combat role and ability. After a while, it just became stale and too focused on a single thing: Combat (which is basically whack-a-mole). Go through 10 encounters… yay… generic level up. I had a blast with the people I gamed with (great group), but not with the game.

Anyhoo… the purpose of gaming is to have fun. To those playing 4e and loving it, carry on! To those hating it, there are hundreds of other RPGs out there. I found the one for me.
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The best part right now is that my players has actually stopped taking long rests as soon as their dailys are spent, and they realize that they can go on for a long time + the fact that they start to get a feel for the tactics + and i succeeded in making a skill challenge transparent enough so it did not feel forced, something i thought impossible.

i still think it’s a bit dull that all magic items are just instantly known what they do (we have a history of wearing rings and flapping arms, drinking unknown potions and hope for the best and stuff like that), but it’s no biggie.

all in all, it’s fun, and we’ll probably go about it with me as the 4thEd DM, and the other guy as the old 3.5th ed DM.

Re: Aimed shots.

In one of our games, the paladin was held by a tentacle monster and failed her check for breaking free.

The ranger decided to help out by shooting arrows at the tentacles.

She hit the monster with one of the arrows – exceeding the DC enough for me to rule that she hit her target.

(I like to interpret how close you came to doing it exactly how you describe by how close / above you are to the target roll)

It gave a +4 bonus to the Paladin on her next attempt (many tentacles).

With the proper fluff, this was a cool action that made the ranger proud.

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Disarm: Atk vs Reflex defense of target. Hit: Weapon is knocked away in square adjacent to attacker.

Aimed shots don’t exist (like they didn’t exist in 3e IIRC) since Hit Points are an abstraction. But then again, I’d allow an atk vs Reflex to daze or slow a target until End of Next turn as a way of demonstrating called shots to the head/legs.

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@Jonathan: I’m slowly getting used to parcels, especially since I discovered that converting an Item into gold finally gives Players the feeling of scoring big.

As for stat, no contest. I love how fast it is to create combat encounters in 4e.

I’m also impressed with how much easier it is to stat up monsters – after picking up 4E I went back to stat up a third edition monster, and found it very clunky by comparison. This edition is a great time-saver for DMs.

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My main issues with 4e still come down to cost. I just don’t have that sort of cash to drop on the books I’d want/need and the all the other little things like minis etc. That won’t change unless my numbers come up on the lottery.

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I’ve no issues with those who decided to give the game a pass. I consider myself luck to have seen the game target most of my specific needs and preferences in a RPG.

Maybe your friends will reconsider at a later date.

Rolemaster was awesome when I was reading it… until I tried it.

Maybe one day…