Comments on: Rage, Song, and Shapeshift are all coming back http://critical-hits.com/2008/07/31/rage-song-and-shapeshift-are-all-coming-back/ The Journal of Gamer Culture Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:53:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Scott’s Corner » Archive » Random gaming update http://critical-hits.com/2008/07/31/rage-song-and-shapeshift-are-all-coming-back/#comment-63197 Scott’s Corner » Archive » Random gaming update Wed, 06 May 2009 00:59:18 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1813#comment-63197 [...] from a Fey Pact Warlock. Earthdawn is being released as a 4e world setting Mount clarifications Chatty reports on the new catalog spilling that Players Handbook 2 will include Druid, Barbarian, Sorcerer, and Bard classes (eight [...] [...] from a Fey Pact Warlock. Earthdawn is being released as a 4e world setting Mount clarifications Chatty reports on the new catalog spilling that Players Handbook 2 will include Druid, Barbarian, Sorcerer, and Bard classes (eight [...]

]]> By: The Game http://critical-hits.com/2008/07/31/rage-song-and-shapeshift-are-all-coming-back/#comment-63196 The Game Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:21:38 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1813#comment-63196 Thanks for the update, Rob! Feel free to let us know what all is actually in the PHB2... :) Thanks for the update, Rob!

Feel free to let us know what all is actually in the PHB2… :)

]]> By: Rob Heinsoo http://critical-hits.com/2008/07/31/rage-song-and-shapeshift-are-all-coming-back/#comment-63195 Rob Heinsoo Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:17:21 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1813#comment-63195 As The Game began to suspect, there's no Swordmage in PH2. I bet I know where the mix-up came from: the Swordmage *is* supported in the Arcane Power book, also announced in this Spring 2009 catalog. As The Game began to suspect, there’s no Swordmage in PH2.

I bet I know where the mix-up came from: the Swordmage *is* supported in the Arcane Power book, also announced in this Spring 2009 catalog.

]]> By: The Game http://critical-hits.com/2008/07/31/rage-song-and-shapeshift-are-all-coming-back/#comment-63194 The Game Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:37:49 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1813#comment-63194 Despite the fact that I reported this, I'm dubious as to the Swordmage being in there. The others are pretty well confirmed, but I think there may be some mix-up there. Will followup on this. Despite the fact that I reported this, I’m dubious as to the Swordmage being in there. The others are pretty well confirmed, but I think there may be some mix-up there. Will followup on this.

]]> By: Bartoneus http://critical-hits.com/2008/07/31/rage-song-and-shapeshift-are-all-coming-back/#comment-63193 Bartoneus Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:10:19 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1813#comment-63193 Russ: Yea but August 2008 vs. Spring 2009 will probably sell a bunch of people on the FR book anyway. Like my player (Joshx0rfz) who will most likely hit level 3 before the Spring! :D Russ: Yea but August 2008 vs. Spring 2009 will probably sell a bunch of people on the FR book anyway. Like my player (Joshx0rfz) who will most likely hit level 3 before the Spring! :D

]]> By: Russ http://critical-hits.com/2008/07/31/rage-song-and-shapeshift-are-all-coming-back/#comment-63192 Russ Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:59:03 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1813#comment-63192 I think the best thing about this model is it allows the to build out rather than up. No one wants a supplement arms race and there are still plenty of classes/power sources to cover. It is also interesting that the Swordmage is included. No need to buy the Forgotten Realms Players guide for only that now. I think the best thing about this model is it allows the to build out rather than up. No one wants a supplement arms race and there are still plenty of classes/power sources to cover.

It is also interesting that the Swordmage is included. No need to buy the Forgotten Realms Players guide for only that now.

]]> By: Porter http://critical-hits.com/2008/07/31/rage-song-and-shapeshift-are-all-coming-back/#comment-63191 Porter Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:20:22 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1813#comment-63191 Unsurprising really. I mean what did people think? That WotC would release a giant volume like the old Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay - with the players rules, game masters rules, monsters, and setting all in one book? Their goal - as far as I can tell - was to release a _core_ set of rules that functioned well, and formed a reliable framework on which to build. It'll be interesting to see if with the PHB2 whether or not the classes continue to conform with the 4 core combat roles: Controller, Defender, Leader, Striker - or whether they'll add a couple more to round things out. I'm thinking that Druids will likely end up as Controllers, Barbarians as Defenders (with more mobility), Sorcerers as Strikers, Bards as Leaders, and Swordmages as Strikers. Unless (and this is a big unless) they decide to expand the roles to match the ones found in the monster manual. In Which case I can easily see Barbarians as Brutes, and Sorcerers as Artillery, and Swordmages as Skirmishers. I think however, the PHB could have been around 50% to 100% bigger with the base classes alone having more than the 3 - 4 powers at each level to choose from. That's just me though. Unsurprising really.

I mean what did people think? That WotC would release a giant volume like the old Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay – with the players rules, game masters rules, monsters, and setting all in one book?

Their goal – as far as I can tell – was to release a _core_ set of rules that functioned well, and formed a reliable framework on which to build.

It’ll be interesting to see if with the PHB2 whether or not the classes continue to conform with the 4 core combat roles: Controller, Defender, Leader, Striker – or whether they’ll add a couple more to round things out. I’m thinking that Druids will likely end up as Controllers, Barbarians as Defenders (with more mobility), Sorcerers as Strikers, Bards as Leaders, and Swordmages as Strikers.

Unless (and this is a big unless) they decide to expand the roles to match the ones found in the monster manual. In Which case I can easily see Barbarians as Brutes, and Sorcerers as Artillery, and Swordmages as Skirmishers.

I think however, the PHB could have been around 50% to 100% bigger with the base classes alone having more than the 3 – 4 powers at each level to choose from. That’s just me though.

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