Comments on: The Case for Fourth Edition http://critical-hits.com/2007/08/17/the-case-for-fourth-edition/ The Journal of Gamer Culture Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:53:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: D&D and the Bardic Afterlife : Critical Hits http://critical-hits.com/2007/08/17/the-case-for-fourth-edition/#comment-60412 D&D and the Bardic Afterlife : Critical Hits Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:20:41 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1004#comment-60412 [...] too busy or I’m really looking forward to having some surprises when it finally comes out.  Back when Dave posted his first impressions of it I became really excited because it seemed, against all odds, that the designers at WotC were [...] [...] too busy or I’m really looking forward to having some surprises when it finally comes out.  Back when Dave posted his first impressions of it I became really excited because it seemed, against all odds, that the designers at WotC were [...]

]]> By: Inq. of the Week: Tights and Spandex : Critical Hits http://critical-hits.com/2007/08/17/the-case-for-fourth-edition/#comment-60411 Inq. of the Week: Tights and Spandex : Critical Hits Tue, 04 Sep 2007 02:58:01 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1004#comment-60411 [...] before deciding to shell out or not. In a closer second than I expected are those of you who were swayed by my cunning arguments about why it’s going to be awesome. Then in third: those of you who are worried about being [...] [...] before deciding to shell out or not. In a closer second than I expected are those of you who were swayed by my cunning arguments about why it’s going to be awesome. Then in third: those of you who are worried about being [...]

]]> By: The Game http://critical-hits.com/2007/08/17/the-case-for-fourth-edition/#comment-60410 The Game Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:34:58 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1004#comment-60410 The $10/month charge is pretty definite. It's optional- you don't have to belong to D&D Insider to play D&D4e- but it will have a lot of features that I think are pretty cool. And yeah, Gleemax should have been the one to invent psionics, but I think they meant the joke was that Gleemax invented the card game Magic: The Gathering, and was secretly designing all the cards. (Because what else but an alien brain could design that many cards?) The $10/month charge is pretty definite. It’s optional- you don’t have to belong to D&D Insider to play D&D4e- but it will have a lot of features that I think are pretty cool.

And yeah, Gleemax should have been the one to invent psionics, but I think they meant the joke was that Gleemax invented the card game Magic: The Gathering, and was secretly designing all the cards. (Because what else but an alien brain could design that many cards?)

]]> By: ohlan http://critical-hits.com/2007/08/17/the-case-for-fourth-edition/#comment-60409 ohlan Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:29:20 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1004#comment-60409 You mentioned they may start charging $10/month? I hope not because I think they benefit as much or more from letting people view it for free. $10 is steep! I am excited about fourth, although I worry at the cost of getting all the books & acessories again. On the case of a giant alien brain called "Gleemax!" I would think he may have created psionics. Magic seems like something that would have to be from something fantasy and not sci-fi. You mentioned they may start charging $10/month? I hope not because I think they benefit as much or more from letting people view it for free. $10 is steep!

I am excited about fourth, although I worry at the cost of getting all the books & acessories again.

On the case of a giant alien brain called “Gleemax!” I would think he may have created psionics. Magic seems like something that would have to be from something fantasy and not sci-fi.

]]> By: The Game http://critical-hits.com/2007/08/17/the-case-for-fourth-edition/#comment-60408 The Game Wed, 29 Aug 2007 01:04:46 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1004#comment-60408 I should add that Gleemax is NOT the same, precisely, as the digital portion of D&D4e. That is called "D&D Insider" which has Dungeon, Dragon, online play, etc. Gleemax is the overall social networking component. I should add that Gleemax is NOT the same, precisely, as the digital portion of D&D4e. That is called “D&D Insider” which has Dungeon, Dragon, online play, etc. Gleemax is the overall social networking component.

]]> By: TheMainEvent http://critical-hits.com/2007/08/17/the-case-for-fourth-edition/#comment-60407 TheMainEvent Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:50:00 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1004#comment-60407 Wow, with the tale behind Gleemax now I actually have an argument for allowing empty suited MBAs to smack some sense into the R&D guys... bring on the million dollar consulting firm! Wow, with the tale behind Gleemax now I actually have an argument for allowing empty suited MBAs to smack some sense into the R&D guys… bring on the million dollar consulting firm!

]]> By: The Game http://critical-hits.com/2007/08/17/the-case-for-fourth-edition/#comment-60406 The Game Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:47:43 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1004#comment-60406 Not true... Gleemax goes back before the Hasbro buy-out. It was an inside joke among the R&D guys that a giant alien brain named Gleemax really developed Magic. Not saying it's a good name, but it's about as un-corporate committee than you can get. Not true… Gleemax goes back before the Hasbro buy-out. It was an inside joke among the R&D guys that a giant alien brain named Gleemax really developed Magic. Not saying it’s a good name, but it’s about as un-corporate committee than you can get.

]]> By: Bartoneus http://critical-hits.com/2007/08/17/the-case-for-fourth-edition/#comment-60405 Bartoneus Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:55:52 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1004#comment-60405 TheMainEvent is always so much more elegant with his insults than I. Thanks! TheMainEvent is always so much more elegant with his insults than I. Thanks!

]]> By: TheMainEvent http://critical-hits.com/2007/08/17/the-case-for-fourth-edition/#comment-60404 TheMainEvent Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:19:55 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1004#comment-60404 I bet some corporate fuck heads at Hasbro paid some retarded consulting firm a cool million to shit out the name "Gleemax." I bet some corporate fuck heads at Hasbro paid some retarded consulting firm a cool million to shit out the name “Gleemax.”

]]> By: Bartoneus http://critical-hits.com/2007/08/17/the-case-for-fourth-edition/#comment-60403 Bartoneus Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:39:35 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1004#comment-60403 Just the name 'gleemax' bothers me, possibly because it makes little sense to me and does not speak of "gaming network" at all? Just the name ‘gleemax’ bothers me, possibly because it makes little sense to me and does not speak of “gaming network” at all?

]]> By: The Game http://critical-hits.com/2007/08/17/the-case-for-fourth-edition/#comment-60402 The Game Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:12:29 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1004#comment-60402 They definitely made a mistake by launching a hideous placeholder where Gleemax will be, but by the looks of what they were showing off at GenCon that's all it is: just a placeholder. (The action shots look great.) But I think you're right to be cautious anyway... no system that ambitious is going to be put together correctly at launch. Another argument for making me a beta tester :) They definitely made a mistake by launching a hideous placeholder where Gleemax will be, but by the looks of what they were showing off at GenCon that’s all it is: just a placeholder. (The action shots look great.) But I think you’re right to be cautious anyway… no system that ambitious is going to be put together correctly at launch. Another argument for making me a beta tester :)

]]> By: Yax http://critical-hits.com/2007/08/17/the-case-for-fourth-edition/#comment-60401 Yax Tue, 28 Aug 2007 01:55:34 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1004#comment-60401 I'm scared about the online. I don't like Gleemax at all. Today there was on frame that had an error 404 on the homepage of Gleemax.com. Bad omen. I'm really excited about the books though. I’m scared about the online. I don’t like Gleemax at all. Today there was on frame that had an error 404 on the homepage of Gleemax.com. Bad omen.

I’m really excited about the books though.

]]> By: The Game http://critical-hits.com/2007/08/17/the-case-for-fourth-edition/#comment-60400 The Game Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:48:07 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1004#comment-60400 That's Mr. Reynolds alright. Wizards has said that they're trying to go back to more traditional fantasy-style art, which seems to be a popular decision. I hadn't realized that there was so much hate on the style of 3.x, which is often described as "anime/punk". That’s Mr. Reynolds alright. Wizards has said that they’re trying to go back to more traditional fantasy-style art, which seems to be a popular decision. I hadn’t realized that there was so much hate on the style of 3.x, which is often described as “anime/punk”.

]]> By: Bartoneus http://critical-hits.com/2007/08/17/the-case-for-fourth-edition/#comment-60399 Bartoneus Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:27:29 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1004#comment-60399 As long as they get WAR to do all of the artwork, I'm sold! (he did the pictured image, unless they found a perfect knock-off artist?) As long as they get WAR to do all of the artwork, I’m sold! (he did the pictured image, unless they found a perfect knock-off artist?)

]]> By: The Game http://critical-hits.com/2007/08/17/the-case-for-fourth-edition/#comment-60398 The Game Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:43:51 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1004#comment-60398 You don't, yet (but eventually will have to pay $10/month to see), you just need to do a Guest login in the corner. But to summarize, they're going to spread out racial advantages through the levels, and also have racial feats available for certain levels. And powerful races, like Drow and whatnot, will be the same way where they get more powers as they gain levels, so you can finally start by playing a Derro or Ogre or whatever without giving up levels. You don’t, yet (but eventually will have to pay $10/month to see), you just need to do a Guest login in the corner. But to summarize, they’re going to spread out racial advantages through the levels, and also have racial feats available for certain levels. And powerful races, like Drow and whatnot, will be the same way where they get more powers as they gain levels, so you can finally start by playing a Derro or Ogre or whatever without giving up levels.

]]> By: The O http://critical-hits.com/2007/08/17/the-case-for-fourth-edition/#comment-60397 The O Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:37:30 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1004#comment-60397 Very exciting news and good post Game. Could you specify what your link about fixing the racial issue details? I clicked on it, but you need to be a subscriber to Dragon. Very exciting news and good post Game. Could you specify what your link about fixing the racial issue details? I clicked on it, but you need to be a subscriber to Dragon.

]]> By: TheMainEvent http://critical-hits.com/2007/08/17/the-case-for-fourth-edition/#comment-60396 TheMainEvent Sat, 18 Aug 2007 15:20:58 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1004#comment-60396 I'm looking at it this way: 3E was so much better than 2E that I actually laugh at how bad 2E was. Any nostalgic benefit from 2E is simply not worth all the absurdities of the system. If 4E does the same damn thing that 3E did to 2E I'll be suitably impressed. I’m looking at it this way: 3E was so much better than 2E that I actually laugh at how bad 2E was. Any nostalgic benefit from 2E is simply not worth all the absurdities of the system. If 4E does the same damn thing that 3E did to 2E I’ll be suitably impressed.

]]> By: Reverend Mike http://critical-hits.com/2007/08/17/the-case-for-fourth-edition/#comment-60395 Reverend Mike Sat, 18 Aug 2007 03:34:25 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1004#comment-60395 Lol... Actually I based him off of a character from one of my favorite "cartoons"...his gender is questionable...his name is Ed... Note that "his" is talking about my character and not the Ed from the show... Also, I tend to grapple with all my characters...bards and monks alike... Halflings and Ibixians are my favorite race to play...my most recent, however is a half-giant barbarian named Lars...he's chaotic good but I gave him the berserker rage alteration from PH2...so he has a split personality that comes out once he hits a certain number of hitpoints...his name is Herakles...he's CE... He's an angry drunk due to Con damage... Lol…

Actually I based him off of a character from one of my favorite “cartoons”…his gender is questionable…his name is Ed…

Note that “his” is talking about my character and not the Ed from the show…

Also, I tend to grapple with all my characters…bards and monks alike…

Halflings and Ibixians are my favorite race to play…my most recent, however is a half-giant barbarian named Lars…he’s chaotic good but I gave him the berserker rage alteration from PH2…so he has a split personality that comes out once he hits a certain number of hitpoints…his name is Herakles…he’s CE…

He’s an angry drunk due to Con damage…

]]> By: The Game http://critical-hits.com/2007/08/17/the-case-for-fourth-edition/#comment-60394 The Game Sat, 18 Aug 2007 00:13:19 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1004#comment-60394 Did you name the character "Grapfling"? Or "Holdo"? Or "Samwise Wrestlemania"? Did you name the character “Grapfling”? Or “Holdo”? Or “Samwise Wrestlemania”?

]]> By: Reverend Mike http://critical-hits.com/2007/08/17/the-case-for-fourth-edition/#comment-60393 Reverend Mike Sat, 18 Aug 2007 00:05:15 +0000 http://www.critical-hits.com/?p=1004#comment-60393 This has me very excited... Of course, that may mean that my memorization of the grappling rules will become useless...that's one of my favorite things to do with all of my characters because the DM never expects it and often the enemy has a relatively POS grapple mod...makes me feel good when my halfling fighter can wrestle an unsuspecting ranger to the ground ad start punching him with his own fists... This has me very excited…

Of course, that may mean that my memorization of the grappling rules will become useless…that’s one of my favorite things to do with all of my characters because the DM never expects it and often the enemy has a relatively POS grapple mod…makes me feel good when my halfling fighter can wrestle an unsuspecting ranger to the ground ad start punching him with his own fists…

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